Unless the delay is hours and the cause of the delay is the airline, expect nothing. In Ben's defense, the ROI simply isn't there. Here's what the official rules are when booking: American: Reported to be 25 minutes. I have a KLM flight arriving at JFK from Amsterdam with a layover of only 1:45 before my connecting flight to Norfolk all on 1 ticket and no terminal change. The connecting flight is likely going to be Delta as well if its a nonstop flight to Prague. American Airlines advises customers that "boarding ends 15 minutes before departure" So that leaves you (*gets out calculator*) zero minutes to make your connection. Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). We For the longest time I refused to fly on American because of the nasty attitudes of their staff (angry black bitches) and how they screwed me over multiple times. Hi Scott! I get that planes only make money when theyre flying, and that airlines have heavily banked hubs, and that customers want itineraries that look like they have the shortest possible travel time. Experienced flyers look at a connection like that and say "nuh uh, not way". Itll simply be a matter of walking from one plane to the next (unless you have to change terminals, which in that case, will require going through a security checkpoint). They are applied globally to develop and ensure viable connections. Id try to get a longer layover if possible, but it wont be the end of the world if you cant. I wouldnt worry though. Basically making this connection requires (your inbound being on-time or early AND you're in row 1-3 AND your connecting flight is an adjacent gate) OR your outbound flight is delayed. 4 hours between arrival and departure. The minimum connection time varies by airport and type of connection (domestic to domestic or domestic to international, for example). Its free if all youre doing is switching terminals. You can basically choose (based on their schedules) how much time you want in between flights. We have been commenting/complaining about this for years during numerous crew/employee town halls. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. Very helpful, Scott! Hi Jay yes, you will need to go claim your checked luggage before going through customs (which will happen right after you clear passport control). It has taken us a very long time on AA recently when you have your own device (we have a mobility scooter). Hi Gerly since youll be clearing US customs and immigration prior to leaving Toronto, youll arrive at JFK just as a domestic flight would. And if you get an aggressive TSA female who refuses to believe you have pre-check and puts you back through the x-ray and pat down the swabs for drugs you've no chance. While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. No problem! On the other hand, Id probably view a 25-minute connection in Austin the same as a 40-minute connection in Dallas, in terms of risk of misconnecting. Hi. For domestic to domestic, they are typically under an hour, and can be as little as 30 minutes. Theres insane amount of international traffic coming into the JFK Airport at all hours of the day Its going to get backed up at times, so have a little patience. Thanks for the article, very informative. Unfortunately I don't have always the choice but for sure, in Europe my favorite airport is MUC. MINIMUMCONNECTION TIMES. Delta. Domestic to international all within terminal 8 in 1.5 hours? Its not the 25min MCT that kills you on American. Even as an EXP they were closing the door at T-20. Once clearing customs, you will be released into the arrivals area of T4. If your destination requires specific travel documents, remember to bring a completed copy with you to the airport. This is one of those internal operations things that AA wouldn't actually answer because some Lean Six Sigma'd it, customers be damned, and that's just the way things are. Learnt my lesson and now I refuse to connect in FRA if the layover is less than 90min unless there's another convenient flight later on the day. My take is, I choose my flight connections. You're connection is likely really only 25mins as AA will make every effort to close your departing flight ten (10) mins early. If you miss your connection, Ive been told twice that they cannot rebook you on a new flight that flies through a different hub than your scheduled flight. I live in Austin and fly every week. I am thinking of doing ICN-JFK-BDA with KE and DL. 2). I have decided to stop flying American Airlines because of other things they did which to me seemed quite abhorrent. From Doha to New York, which arrives at JFK (terminal 8) at 3pm EDT - operated by Qatar. I have good luck chatting through the app and I am not an elite. In that case, even a 45 minute connection would be fine connecting to a flight in the same terminal. I live in a non hub city and the best priced and timed itineraries from PSP involve a minute connection in PHX. Regarding this topic. Sad considering there are 3 closet-sized admirals clubs to chose from, the worst centurion in existence (not run by Amex) and its sister escape lounge. Ellos hacen conexion en Miami y se nos ha retrasado el vuelo de Orlando entonces cuando eso sucede , nos quedamos de la conexion. Do you know if I have to get my bags re checked and if I have to go through security again in JFK? The process will go like this: Hi Scott, for DFW -JFK-AMS, will I recently booked a ticket with Qatar Airways from the U.S. to Asia on the same flights that I have flown on a few times before and normally had a connection of 3 hours. I would want a minimum of 2 hours for this if it were me. American Airlines has a 25-minute minimum connection time at Austin Airport. If your trying to get a plane in dallas or LA it takes more than 25 min. Just experienced this yesterday doing an AA international arrival and domestic departure at PHX. Neither was ideal and I went for the 45 minute option, which ultimately was a mistake given my parents can't speed through airports as quickly as I can, and also that they were completely unfamiliar with Madrid Airport. Typically first or first few rows of economy. Last night I was looking at an itinerary from Albuquerque to Tampa, and stumbled upon a pretty good option on American, which was both by far the cheapest, and by far the fastest. The passenger from the previous flight is at the counter and she tells me they gave our seats away. If it's less than an hour I move on and check the others. The airline will most assuredly not give your seat away to a standby passenger in this scenario. American Airlines - John F. Kennedy International, New York (JFK) In order to use a oneworld member airline lounge, . As a New Mexico resident that flys out of ABQ or ELP on AA often, I was confident you would be talking about a ticket leaving from one of these airports. Theyll just put you on the next one (automatically) and you wont have to wait long. Thanks for providing such a great website for travelers to inquire about their travels!!!!! It's great that mct is 25. This is because of daylight savings time ending (moving the arrival one hour forward) and because of QR changing my connecting flights timings to 1 hour earlier (presumably because of the world cup and aircraft availability). The nice thing about flights to LHR from JFK on American Airlines and British Airways is that there are many every day. You should have enough time to meet your friend IMHO. Pay more and book through DFW. The Charlotte Airport it takes at least 19 minutes to get to your next gate and that has been for every flight I have taken from there. From New York to Raleigh, which departs from JFK (terminal 8) at 4:19pm EDT - operated by American Airlines. Please review the special minimum required times below so you can plan accordingly and make sure you check in within the required number of minutes before your departure time. The issue is with mobility . - Hadn't thought about the "trip delay" angle, but I'd be surprised if AUS expanded to over 30 gates just before Covid, and the other day, I arrived on a flight from LAX at Gate 1. LIS was adviced Well, don't know how that works in the US but back in time I was Flying BRU-LIS-GRU with a theoretical stop over in LIS of about 2hrs (which in practice was/is always much more). It would have likely prompted them to change their connection time to at least 40 minutes. I was just reading about the construction at JFK and possible bus service in lieu of Air Tran. Wow ! Both flights are part of the same ticket. We have 1 bookingnumber. Thank you. for all kind of connections. She cant get thru security but if we have to reclear anyways, it seems like we might have enough time to try to meet up and not feel stressed. MCTs (Minimum Connecting Times) are standardised and agreed data sets which provide the minimum possible connecting time for both a passenger and their luggage to connect between an arriving flight and their departing flight. The connection time was 80 minutes. Hi what is the required connection time in JFK for international to domestic flights? I also try to take the first flight out of any city to insure that most likely that flight will be on time and many times "early" into the arrival gate. I looked at map of T4 and found both gates but cant find customs at T4! An advantage of this would be access to cheaper fare inventory when the system creates a connecting itinerary. Three hours will be more than enough time! My American flights out of Knoxville usually connect in Charlotte, Dallas, or Chicago. We're part-time European residents and our nearest (truly) international airport is ORD. This is almost exactly the same as a domestic to domestic connection, with the only difference being that youll need to be onboard your international flight sooner. In some cases, they rebook me and get me to my destination even quicker than my originally scheduled flight. MCTs are vastly different around the globe for example, the MCT in Helsinki for a domestic to domestic connection is 20 minutes, while the MCT in Mexico City for an international to international connection is 120 minutes. Review: AA & BA Greenwich Lounge New York (JFK), American Airlines Bringing Back Alcohol In Economy, Review: American Airlines A321neo First Class (TPA-LAX), Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, It can easily take 10 minutes to get off a plane, especially if youre seated toward the back, American Airlines advises customers that boarding ends 15 minutes before departure. So, 25 minutes on paper is likely to be more like 35 minutes in practice, and in AUS specifically you're not going more than a few dozen feet gate-to-gate. The Fun Fact about MCT is the time is from the arrival to the actual departure time. You can meet them at the arrivals area in T4. As I just mentioned, 30 minutes is the bare minimum of time youll need for a domestic to domestic connection. I see some other websites suggest this is the case, but your detailed description sounds like we can just walk from gate on upper level to gate on lower level. take your overhead into consideration. I just put in my origin and my destination and then have to pick from the options offered by AA, why are you offering such short connections if it is not adequate time to connect!! Unless youre in 1st, always give yourself an hour between connections. If I have been on a given route and have reason to believe I won't have to change terminals, I might risk booking a slightly shorter connection. And because youll go through US customs and immigration prior to departing YYZ, youll arrive at JFK as if it were a domestic US flight. - Hadn't thought about the "trip delay" angle, but I'd be surprised if there weren't people who tried that. and while there was a flight departing LAX-ORD at 7:40am, American Airlines requires 90 minutes between flights when transiting from an . Youll have to ask those in line in front of you. He doesn't say a word just starts typing away then he hands me a ticket for a flight leaving within the hour. If, for some reason, you feel you can't make a connection within the allotted time, contact. You could probably pull it off, but I can guarantee that itll be a stressful experience. Have a great trip! I figured I was OK because I was traveling first class, and I have global pass. If you do, keep reading, because Im going to explain the process of making terminal to terminal transfers at the JFK airport below: The JFK Airport consists of six terminals. Yes, an hour and a half will be cutting really close even if you dont have to switch terminals. :), watching your plane sit at the gate going nowhere with the jetbridge disconnected is pure heartbreak. This problem invariably occurs because of airline instigated changes as I book months in advance. I fly a lot. Not entirely anyway. You may end up with a bulkhead seat behind first/business class. If they're not on the same ticket, then you're not connecting, but arriving and departing. I was stunned when I realized I had booked Palm Springs to Boston through Phoenix with the 25 minutes MCT. I recommend sitting as far forward as you can on your inbound flight (so that youll be one of the first off). While deplaning in ten minutes - then, taking zero minutes to walk and board your connecting flight fifteen minutes prior to boarding - and making a connecting flight departing 25-minutes later may smack of a need for a power to time travel, lets view this through the prism of reality. Will that get them through security quicker? Minimum Connecting Time Technical Guide Page 7 of 17 B. Once I was seated in the plane it took one more hour for departure. I have not been to JFK in a while! The Airline Terminals Train runs counterclockwise. 2. Dont know if we are going to make it. I think KE lands in T1 and DL is in T4. Seriously the entire flight had already arrived at sat down before me so I knew I wasn't stealing a seat from someone who needed it more and again there were multiple empty handicap seats right next to it. Id rather get a plethora of connections than just a few that price me out of the market. I want 90 minutes with a domestic.connectio. I have only hands-on luggage, but I need to pass the immigration control and then find the new gate (should be the same terminal 8 if Im not wrong). Terminal 5 serves as the base of operations for low-cost carrier JetBlue. or go from American Airlines to a British Airways. IAH), which have to go through an extra security check. I'd say around 90 minutes for a connection (on the same ticket), and 180 minutes for an arrival and departure. This means that you can just walk to your connecting gate without going through any additional checkpoints. The only two connection options of the day were 45 minutes, or 6.5 hours. If they are booked on the same ticket, then the airlines won't give you an illegal connecting time. BY e38 - Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:59 pm. Well, don't know how that works in the US but back in time I was Flying BRU-LIS-GRU with a theoretical stop over in LIS of about 2hrs (which in practice was/is always much more). Would be nice but impossible to connect bags in that short of time company has too many unrealistic expectations. Is this doable or should I request cruise line to rebook? Only way would be if there were other flight options from AUS-DFW-TPA that would work if you miss connection and those flights had lots of empty seats. An international domestic connection (no terminal change), with checked baggage. That alone makes a 60 minute connection necessary. Hi Scott!!! The departure was delayed waiting for 8 late connecting bags, the same amount coming off our flight. United: 30-minute minimum for domestic, 60 minutes for international. I won't book a connection of less than 45 min. MCTs should be based on the when the boarding times of the connecting flights start and NOT their departure time! I always make certain of at least 1 hr 20 minutes - and I mostly fly Southwest! And with flights still full it's doubtful there's going to be an open seat towards the front of the plane available at the gate. The minimum connection time in Paris is between 60 and 90 minutes, depending on the flight. Anonymous needs to work through their issues with racism. And if you think that's bad, let me tell you about the time AA kept us on plane on runway for hours then cancelled because I quote they were not permitting overtime for the pilots and then when I called to rebook the moron mistypes and books me for 12/26 instead of 2/26. There are many AA flights from JFK to LAX every day so theyll get you there without any issues no matter what. Just keep moving as quickly as you can and you shouldnt have any issues. So, you could get off at one gate and your connection maybe 3 or 4 gates away or right across the walkway. Not too big of a deal if there are other frequencies later on in the day, but if that isn't the case it can be a nightmare. Global Entry wont get them through security any faster but TSA Precheck (which comes as part of Global Entry) will. It's especially a problem at MIA, where they don't have elevators at every gate, so they have to take it a few gates away and then bring it from there (other airports carry it up the jetbridge stairs, it only weighs 120 pounds, and can be disassembled). However, for the sake of preserving your sanity, youre probably going to want a little more time than that. However even though the plane did hit the tarmac 20 minutes early it took us all of that just to get to the arrival gate throw in the time for us to get off the plane and our 30 minute connection time dwindled to just 20 minutes with just 5 minutes to make it to our gate before they close the doors. I would contact QR and say due to them changing your flight you request your flights to be changed or refunded and point out that the connection time is probably in violation of rules (even check on them) or you could ask them to have someone meet you at the plane and get off first and have someone drive you through maybe. Yeah, thats not a very fun type of connection to make at JFK. One of my regular flights is LAX to Austin.
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